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. and at least 134,000 iraqi civilians died in that conflict. the cost of war projected at brown university puts the current cost of the iraq war at $1.7 trillion. and estimates that total expenses will soar to $6 trillion over the next 40 years. now the lasting effect of the conflict and the misleading information that was used to justify it is still being felt today in washington. as our first read team points out, the iraq war is the most consequential political event of the past ten years, and probably beyond. joining me now, nbc news foreign correspondent. we have michael smerconish, military analyst general barry mccaffrey, and the first iraq war veteran to serve in congress. let's start with you here, general. as we look at what's happening at the moment, these attacks in shiite districts largely believed to be linked to suny militants, linked to al qaeda. what would you say the magazine any to do of the situation is? >> compared to the mayhem that was going on during the fighting for fallujah, it is relatively moderate. what we have going on in iraq now is the shia plurality, dominating
ferguson and the next brown versus board of education. he wants to be on the right side of history. what's your response to that in. >> all of that is quite accurate except maybe where they're guessing about kennedy's mind and the right side of history. but that also sounds right to me. he did rule, he is going to be probably the deciding vote with the other justices evenly split. so which way he throws his weight will be determinative. he did decide in favor of gay rights in two previous cases. somewhat different but also somewhat the same as this. so we'll just have to wait and see about that. >> liz, i want your reaction to the fact that justice roberts' cousin who is gay jean podrasky will be in the audience. she believes that he sees the tide and that she trusts his judgment absolutely. that he will go, in the quote, good direction. that's an incredible development to have his relative. we've seen recently obviously, politicians come out because their children say they are gay and they want to support their child as well as laws that could benefit their children. is not that an inte
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